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Title: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: Barry Dewling on December 10, 2012, 09:26:14 pm
Word just got to me that the Tug Charlene Hunt is in port here to get rid of the Lyubov Orlova. Trying to confirm


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: rd77 on December 11, 2012, 02:06:03 pm
oh, she is still there? I didn't know that. Please try to take pics of her departure if you can!


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: Damien McCarthy on December 11, 2012, 07:15:01 pm
Whats happening to her


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: Paul Bradshaw on December 11, 2012, 10:21:08 pm
Must be headed to the US.  That tug is older than the Lyubov Orlova.


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: Damien McCarthy on December 12, 2012, 06:18:24 pm
Will she return to service ?


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: Barry Dewling on December 12, 2012, 07:55:14 pm
Story on her departure

http://www.cbc.ca/player/News/Canada/NL/Featured/ID/2315169987/


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: Kyle Larabee on December 12, 2012, 11:37:40 pm
That is too bad she can't get work. She is a nice looking boat.

Kyle


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: Barry Dewling on December 13, 2012, 02:37:30 pm
Going to be scrapped

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/story/2012/12/12/nl-lyubov-orlova-sold-1212.html


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: Robert Smith on December 15, 2012, 11:21:20 pm
The picture of the rig by Mr. Wederfoort has nothing to do with the story on the  "Lyubov Orlova" and does not belong in the forum anyway. He has tried earlier to turn this site into a political forum.

Rgds,
 ???


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: Barry Dewling on December 28, 2012, 10:19:20 am
The ship just doesen't want to leave


http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/story/2012/12/27/nl-orlova-departure-delayed-1227.html


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: Barry Dewling on January 02, 2013, 11:36:57 am
Live shot Jan 2 2013
8am local time
Ship still in port


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: Timsen on January 23, 2013, 08:55:58 pm
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/story/2013/01/23/nl-orlova-final-voyage-123.html


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: Paul Bradshaw on January 23, 2013, 10:15:28 pm
So, they waited six weeks on weather and left in a gale with 5 metre seas?


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: wes pretty on January 24, 2013, 10:14:32 pm
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/story/2013/01/24/nl-luybov-orlova-adrift-124.html


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: Timsen on January 25, 2013, 09:15:22 am
Wet burial???


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: Timsen on January 27, 2013, 10:09:17 pm
Still adrift, but no hazard:
http://www.thetelegram.com/News/Local/2013-01-26/article-3164673/Orlova-still-adrift-but-not-a-hazard-Transport-Canada/1


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: DanEarl on January 27, 2013, 10:12:05 pm
Another link here from my earlier post today :

http://forum.shipspotting.com/index.php/topic,11525.msg61849.html#msg61849

Cheers, Dan.


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: Barry Dewling on January 29, 2013, 12:55:45 pm
Transport Canada says the Orlova is 50 nautical miles offshore of the island and is drifting towards open seas.


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: stantheman on January 29, 2013, 03:35:56 pm
So I guess if she's adrift and abandoned on the high seas she becomes fair game for anyone that happens by. Is that true?
But then again, who would want her? Scrap value only i guess. But is she fair game now? What do the rules say? ;D


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: Timsen on January 29, 2013, 08:50:54 pm
Interesting details regarding the CHARLENE HUNT:
http://www.thetelegram.com/Business/2013-01-29/article-3165827/Tugboat-has-its-own-troubles/1


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: Timsen on January 30, 2013, 03:33:33 pm
No threat for rigs:
http://www.vocm.com/newsarticle.asp?mn=2&id=30381&latest=1


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: BarrySmith on January 30, 2013, 05:01:10 pm
If the battery or gas lights put onboard for the tow are extinguished then the vessel is a serious hazard to navigation. Somebody has to take responsibility here pretty quickly otherwise things could go seriously wrong with potentially tragic consequences. Then heads will roll...


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: Kai R on January 31, 2013, 08:02:25 am
what are they going to do anyway? Wait till she is washed onto the shore somewhere?


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: kasco on January 31, 2013, 12:17:37 pm
report that she is now under tow by a supply ship from one of the oil rigs?


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: wes pretty on January 31, 2013, 01:25:16 pm
Todays Editorial comment:

http://www.thetelegram.com/Opinion/Editorial/2013-01-31/article-3167525/Strange-days-indeed/1


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: IRION29 on January 31, 2013, 04:13:12 pm
From all reports the Tug " Charlene Hunt" was'nt seaworthy to make the voyage let alone with a vessel in tow, Looks like some one hoping to cash in on insurance!


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: Timsen on January 31, 2013, 09:18:47 pm
report that she is now under tow by a supply ship from one of the oil rigs?

Indeed:
http://www.maritime-executive.com/article/OSV-Manages-to-Secure-Drifting-Russian-Cruise-Ship-Near-Misses-with-Offshore-Platforms/


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: Kyle Larabee on January 31, 2013, 09:50:54 pm
Update !

http://blog.halifaxshippingnews.ca/2013/01/lyubov-orlova-under-control.html?spref=tw (http://blog.halifaxshippingnews.ca/2013/01/lyubov-orlova-under-control.html?spref=tw)

Kyle


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: Barry Dewling on February 02, 2013, 10:44:39 am
The Transportation Safety Board (TSB) is sending a team to St. John's to investigate the never-ending saga of the derelict cruise ship Lyubov Orlova.
 
Specifically, the TSB will investigate how the rusting vessel broke free from a tugboat on Jan. 23 and went adrift in the North Atlantic.

On Wednesday, Husky Energy had to send the offshore supply ship Atlantic Hawk to tow the Orlova away from oil installations. The vessels are still travelling north in the direction of prevailing wind and weather.

Destination unknown

Meanwhile, Transport Canada has commissioned the Maersk Challenger to take over the tow from the Atlantic Hawk.
 
There's still no word on where the Orlova will end up, but the St. John's Port Authority has issued a warning, telling Transport Canada it will not allow the ship to berth at any of its facilities.
 
"It's an environmental risk to the port, the environment in general, our other vessel users that are in the port," said Sean Hanrahan, the president and CEO of the port authority.

"Secondly of all, an operational nigthmare. We can't operate a port around a vessel of such size when we've got such demand for our berthage. And third of all is the financial aspect of it all. Nobody's paying the bills, and we simply can't take on that loss all over again."
 
Hanrahan said the bill for the 2.5 years the Orlova spent tied up at the St. John's waterfront is about $200,000.
 
He added that the port authority would like the owner of the Orlova to reconnect a tug boat to the ship and continue to tow it to the Dominican Republic, where it will be scrapped.


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: snocky on February 03, 2013, 12:26:21 pm
Lyubov Orlova presently 90km outside canadian territorial waters & transport canada says they will not rescue it.


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: Barry Dewling on February 03, 2013, 04:37:54 pm


Orlova adrift in international waters

CBC News

Posted: Feb 3, 2013 10:56 AM





Transport Canada says it will not pursue the drifting Lyubov Orlova since the ship has officially entered international waters.
 
A spokesperson said that the Orlova is no longer a threat to the safety of offshore oil platforms, its personnel, or the marine environment.
 
It is unlikely that the vessel will re-enter Canadian waters, given the current patterns and predominant winds.
 
According to Transport Canada, the vessel is located approximately 250 nautical miles east of St. John’s, approximately 50 nautical miles outside Canada’s territorial waters.
 
The fate of the Orlova remains unclear.
 
Transport Canada said that the owners of the vessel have been made aware of the current status of the ship and that they are responsible for it.


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: IRION29 on February 03, 2013, 05:06:10 pm
Typical response from Canadian Authorities.Ms Savitz call for Canada to take "Quick Action" is something not in their playbook.The've convenietly waited until the ship drifted into Int'l waters in order to wash their hands of the matter. Can't see this having a good outcome


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: snocky on February 03, 2013, 06:56:38 pm
Why should TRANSPORT CANADA be responsible for LYUBOV ORLOVA? Why should the taxpayers of canada be responsible for a ship that is owned & neglected by some foreigner out to make a quick buck?


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: Paul Bradshaw on February 03, 2013, 11:49:32 pm
All things considered, it seems like a very negligent thing for a first world government agency, whose mandate is safety, to allow to happen.

Mission statement: "To serve the public interest through the promotion of a safe and secure, efficient and environmentally responsible transportation system in Canada."

 


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: Jarrod David on February 04, 2013, 12:55:39 am
While I agree with you to a certain degree Paul. It is time all countries put a stop to these old tugs, not fit to be at sea towing these old ships to the scrap yard and when something happens they walk away.Case in point the MV Miner which is still high and dry on Scatari Island in Nova Scotia. Example 2 the tug Craig Trans currently sitting in Halifax.I don't think she is fit to do anything let alone tow another retired lake boat. I would say that is the very reason Transport Canada is taking this course of action.I can't say I blame them. It is high time the owners take responsibility for their property!!

Cheers
Jarrod



Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: kasco on February 04, 2013, 11:52:44 am
While I agree with you to a certain degree Paul. It is time all countries put a stop to these old tugs, not fit to be at sea towing these old ships to the scrap yard and when something happens they walk away.Case in point the MV Miner which is still high and dry on Scatari Island in Nova Scotia. Example 2 the tug Craig Trans currently sitting in Halifax.I don't think she is fit to do anything let alone tow another retired lake boat. I would say that is the very reason Transport Canada is taking this course of action.I can't say I blame them. It is high time the owners take responsibility for their property!!

Cheers
Jarrod


While I agree with you, surely this vessel can not be left to drift at will!



Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: Jarrod David on February 04, 2013, 05:02:41 pm
I would like to hope they are taking precautions to safeguard shipping.I think the Govt of Canada is trying to get the owners to take responsibility for their property.It should not be left to the Governments of this world to pick up the mess afterwards.It retrospect the Charlene Hunt should never have been given the clearance to depart.


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: Paul Bradshaw on February 04, 2013, 11:14:59 pm
Didn't the Government of Canada just have some towing troubles?


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: Jarrod David on February 05, 2013, 03:56:04 am
You are correct Paul it was the HMCS Athabaskan tow from Port Weller to Halifax..


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: Barry Dewling on February 05, 2013, 02:12:00 pm


Orlova owner hopes to retrieve drifting vessel

CBC News

Posted: Feb 4, 2013 9:21 PM NT

 
The owner of the derelict and drifting cruise ship Lyubov Orlova said he knew it was a bad idea to attempt to move the ship from St. John's harbour almost two weeks ago.
 
Reza Shoeybi said he feared the courts might seize the Orlova before he had a chance to move it.
 
"We had to take a chance and get it out of here, because a lot of people didn't like to have it here," said Shoeybi. "And basically, it was either take it out of here or lose the ship."
 
Shoeybi is staying in St. John's aboard the tug boat Charlene Hunt, which failed to tow the Orlova to a scrap dealer in the Dominican Republic.
 
The Hunt managed to haul the Orlova out of the harbour on Jan. 23. A day later, the line between the tug and the Orlova snapped southeast of St. John's.
 
Shoeybi said Transport Canada has told him that he can't use the Charlene Hunt to retrieve the Orlova, so he hopes to find another vessel to catch up with it and bring it to the Dominican.

In international waters

Meanwhile, after another failed attempt to tow the vessel, Transport Canada has decided to leave the ship adrift in international waters.
 
The federal agency hired a vessel to tow the Orlova, but the line between the ships snapped on Friday, 20 minutes after the tow line was connected.
 
There were seven-metre-high waves and 140 kilometre-an-hour winds at the time.

Officials decided it was too dangerous to try to re-attach the line to the former Russian cruise ship in those high seas.
 
After the Orlova broke free of the Hunt on Jan. 24, it was picked up by the Atlantic Hawk, an oil industry supply vessel, on Jan. 30.
 
The Orlova was then transferred to the supply vessel hired by Transport Canada on Feb. 1.

Tracking device

The agency said there is a tracking device aboard the Orlova, and the ship was last reported to be drifting in a north-easterly direction.
 
Meanwhile, Transportation Safety Board officials have arrived in Newfoundland to investigate how the Orlova originally ended up adrift.


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: Paul Bradshaw on February 05, 2013, 11:48:46 pm
So, the Canadian Government finds it acceptable to turn their back on a private operator who find themselves in circumstances beyond their control, but if the Government are the operator than it is acceptable to dedicate enormous publicly funded resources to respond? I recognize the circumstances here, but I think there is more to this than this incident. Anyway, this turned out to be a great forum subject which I think has provided a positive environment for participation and an exchange of opinion and it has spurred some other valuable forums on the same subject.   


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: Jarrod David on February 06, 2013, 03:13:40 am
Well said Paul!!


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: davidships on February 11, 2013, 06:03:39 pm
Some more reports.
3 Feb:
http://tugfaxblogspotcom.blogspot.co.uk/2013/02/lyubov-orlova-one-way-to-solve-problem.html
9 Feb: http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2013/02/09/abandoned_cruise_ship_drifts_out_of_canadian_waters.html
11 Feb:
http://www.thetelegram.com/News/Local/2013-02-11/article-3174482/Owner-asks-government-to-help-find-drifting-ship/1

This lawyer's quote caught my eye in the Toronto Star piece: "Though the government was involved in the towing operation, the vessel is ultimately the responsibility of its owners, according to two lawyers. Clay Hunter, partner with Paterson MacDougall, LLP, likened the situation to this: If a car on a hill were to suddenly start accelerating down the hill, and a police officer tried to stop the car but failed, the police officer wouldn’t be held responsible for any damage done by the car."

It doesn't look as simple as that to me.  More like:

1) a private security officer successfully stopped the car (ie Husky Oil's tug ATLANTIC HAWK successfully took the vessel in tow away from the oil rigs)

2) a police officer was sent and the car was handed over to him (Transport Canada sent the MAERSK CHALLENGER which took over the tow successfully)

3) subsequently, when the car had been taken as far as the police boundary, it started off down the hill again, but the police chief said "leave it to crash" (depending on which press version you believe, once outside Canadian territorial waters, either MAERSK CHALLENGER was instructed to slip the tow, or the tow broke free and MAERSK CHALLENGER was told not to continue to stay with the LO with a view to reconnecting when conditions allowed, and warn any other vessels).





Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: Damien McCarthy on February 12, 2013, 09:49:58 am
Lyubov Orlova is out of control i'd she shouldv'e waited a day or two before leaving St.Johns


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: Peter Ziobrowski on February 22, 2013, 02:04:04 am
She was found on the 19th north of the Flemish cap
http://blog.halifaxshippingnews.ca/2013/02/lyubov-orlova-spotted.html (http://blog.halifaxshippingnews.ca/2013/02/lyubov-orlova-spotted.html)


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: Paul Bradshaw on February 22, 2013, 03:35:51 am
Now approaching the iceberg limit.This is an example of where that may typically be.It is outside of this limit where the potential for incident is highest.
 


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: Damien McCarthy on February 22, 2013, 06:25:47 pm
Will any attemps be made to retrieve her.Doubtful I'd say as it may be too risky


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: kyle pesely on February 22, 2013, 10:27:54 pm
my guess is that if she survives the elements long enough, whichever country she gets too close to first will end up declaring her a hazard to navigation, then scuttle her for target practice.


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: stantheman on February 22, 2013, 10:30:06 pm
Could anybody that happens by this ship hook on, tow it to shore and file a claim? Or has the law changed? After it is abandoned and derelict.
 :)


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: Damien McCarthy on February 23, 2013, 12:24:56 pm
Well she seems to be drifting south towards Portugal,Spain,West France but anything can happen i guess


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: davidships on February 23, 2013, 12:46:47 pm
Hmmm.
She will be told to go away - and Captain Rat will be arrested.


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: Robert J Smith on February 23, 2013, 01:08:32 pm
From the Daily Mail

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2282777/Eerie-mystery-Russia-s-ghost-cruise-ship-vanished-mists-Caribbean-months-ago-reappeared-near-Ireland.html


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: Damien McCarthy on February 23, 2013, 01:46:53 pm
If she starts to drift East and only a few miles south she may land in Cork or Kerry in Ireland.Hope she does  :D


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: stantheman on February 23, 2013, 06:09:20 pm
Re: Robert J. Smith's post: The map attached showing where the Ship set out for Puerto Rico is wrong. It shows her leaving the coast of Labrador, not St. Johns. St. Johns is on the Island of Newfoundland down in the south east corner, not on the mainland where the starting point is posted.
I guess whoever posted the map with the arrows just doesn't know Canadian Geography!


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: Damien McCarthy on February 23, 2013, 08:58:54 pm
hmm interesting any further updates on her position ?


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: IRION29 on February 24, 2013, 04:11:27 am
Last report says she is atN49 22 70 & W 044 51 34


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: Timsen on February 24, 2013, 07:50:01 am
http://www.thetelegram.com/News/Local/2013-02-23/article-3183442/Orlovas-emergency-beacon-activated/1


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: Paul Bradshaw on February 24, 2013, 03:15:39 pm
This story is drifting as far as the Orlova. Here is a comment on the piece which was posted in the Weekend Telegram by a reader who brings the facts back to reality: Duffy - February 23, 2013 at 16:47:08 "The location of the dead cruise ship has been a mystery since it drifted into international waters earlier this month." It should read "Since Canadian Officials set it adrift in International waters".


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: Damien McCarthy on February 24, 2013, 03:23:19 pm
Only a hope that she lands somewhere before she sinks


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: Clive Harvey on February 24, 2013, 04:45:29 pm
Is the ship abandoned (I know there is no one on board) but is she actually owned by anyone now, the ship breaker or her former owner/operator?
Could someone, for example, go aboard her and claim her as their own, repair her and put her back into service?


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: BarrySmith on February 24, 2013, 05:13:57 pm
Whilst notionally still owned by the company who bought her (unless she was in fact insured
and they have been paid out for a total loss which seems unlikely) she almost certainly has a
negative value as the cost of removing asbestos and other pollutants will exceed her scrap
value outside of somewhere like the Domrep. The latest reports that a beacon has been activated
suggests she may have sunk.


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: DanEarl on February 24, 2013, 06:11:31 pm
http://www.thetelegram.com/News/Local/2013-02-23/article-3183442/Orlovas-emergency-beacon-activated/1

Cheers, Dan.


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: stantheman on February 24, 2013, 11:10:43 pm
Paul, I have been wondering the same thing. I guess it come down to the legal definition of "abandoned". Can anyone shed light on this? ;D


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: davidships on February 25, 2013, 12:27:00 pm
I think I recall reading somewhere the owner saying that she was only insured "whilst under tow".


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: Damien McCarthy on February 25, 2013, 06:11:51 pm
Any further update on her current position, what country is she drifting toward
Thanks
Damien


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: Chris C. on February 25, 2013, 07:42:06 pm
From the St. Johns Telegram News Paper in St.Johns Newfoundland
Orlova's emergency beacon activated
Published on February 23, 2013

An emergency beacon registered to the MV Lyubov Orlova has gone off, according to an official with the Joint Rescue Coordination Centre in Halifax.
Capt. Wayne Jarvis says the beacon first started off going off this morning at 12:49 a.m. Emergency beacons can be activated manually or automatically by either being knocked or hitting the water. The beacon is registered to the MV Lyubov Orlova but whether that means it’s on the ship itself or was on a lifeboat that was on the vessel is uncertain. A life raft with the beacon could have gone overboard causing the beacons to activate, says Jarvis.
 “It could have banged itself into operation. On the other hand maybe the vessel sank. Everything is speculation at this point,” says Capt. Jarvis. “We don’t know what caused it. The beacon just started going off. We’re just keeping an eye on the position for reports at sea just to make sure nobody runs into it but otherwise nothing is beng pursued on it.”
The location of the dead cruise ship has been a mystery since it drifted into international waters earlier this month. Canadian officials haven’t had a positive location on the ship since February 4. The Irish coast guard has been working with a number of satellite and geospatial companies to try and locate the ship out of fear it might be drifting towards their shores. The Irish coast guard thought perhaps they had found the vessel and that it was heading more toward Iceland but whether what they found was the Orlova is now bing called into question.
On Friday, a document published by the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency, an agency of the US Department of Defense, said they had located the Orlova about 2,400 km off the west coast of Ireland. They’re position put the Orlova at 49-22.70N and 044-51.34W. The beacon’s location is 51-46.00N and 035-41.00W.

http://www.thetelegram.com/News/Local/2013-02-23/article-3183442/Orlovas-emergency-beacon-activated/1


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: Damien McCarthy on February 26, 2013, 06:55:40 pm
thanks


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: snocky on March 05, 2013, 11:31:14 am
Anyone out there have any positive report on status of LYUBOV ORLOVA.


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: Damien McCarthy on March 05, 2013, 07:26:58 pm
I think shes drifting for France but can anyone support this ?


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: Kelvin Davies on March 05, 2013, 07:52:31 pm
It was drifting towards Ireland.
Now it isn't.
A satellite had located the ship in February but after the EPIRB signal was received, another satellite fly by showed no sign of the ship.
I think we can assume it has sunk.


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: Damien McCarthy on March 06, 2013, 08:35:01 pm
FURTHER UPDATE!!!
While going through different websites regarding Lyubov Orlova I discovered some sad news.According to the Irish Coastgaurd on March 1st MV Lyubov Orlova's emergency beacon was activated not long bofore 1 o clock that morning 700 miles south-west of Kerry (still International waters).She can no longer be found.It is believed she has sunk.A Twitter account affixed to Lyubov Orlova says "Lots of new lobster friends here, is dark and nice place for long sleep. Goodnight leetle friends, Orlova out."If this is so R.I.P Lyubov Orlov. Will someone attempt to discover her? No one knows.
Hope this is helpful,sorry to dissappoint
Damien


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: newfie24 on March 06, 2013, 08:43:38 pm
on sailwx.info and fleetmon got Lyubov Orlova  Last Position Received:2013-03-06 13:53 NST in st john's??????


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: newfie24 on March 06, 2013, 08:48:44 pm
on sailwx.info and fleetmon got Lyubov Orlova  Last Position Received:2013-03-06 13:53 NST in st john's?????? and when you zoom in it's on land nowhere near water


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: Damien McCarthy on March 06, 2013, 08:55:10 pm
This must be off a zodiac some were sold before she left ST JOHNS on January 23rd


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: Paul Bradshaw on March 06, 2013, 11:26:54 pm
Unbelievable saga! Government of Canada tows vessel considered too toxic to scrap out to international waters, and sets it adrift. Thankfully there was no incident!!


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: kasco on March 07, 2013, 01:49:09 am
Unbelievable saga! Government of Canada tows vessel considered too toxic to scrap out to international waters, and sets it adrift. Thankfully there was no incident!!
SO FAR!


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: Barry Dewling on March 09, 2013, 11:33:19 am

Beacon Activated on Lyubov Orlova
Saturday , March 9 2013
       
VOCM News   


An emergency beacon activated on the Lyubov Orlova indicates the derelict vessel is about 1,100 kilometres from St. John's. The former Russian cruise ship has been drifting in the North Atlantic for more than a month after it broke loose of a tug just outside the Narrows, on its way to the Dominican Republic to be scrapped.
 
A DFO spokesperson says the emergency position indicating rescue beacon, or EPIRB, which activates when it touches salt water, turned on yesterday morning. She could not say whether the empty ship was still afloat.


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: lars henriksen on March 16, 2013, 02:20:00 pm
Hi.. Do we have any news about "Lyubov Orlova ghost ship"?
I read that it might be on its way north United Kingdom, but the day after they wrote it might have sunk.. Is there any news?


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: Damien McCarthy on March 16, 2013, 06:39:53 pm
Not sure lars but pressumed sunk  700 miles south-west of Kerry with the following twitter statement to back it up "Lots of new lobster friends here, is dark and nice place for long sleep. Goodnight leetle friends, Orlova out."


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: Damien McCarthy on April 01, 2013, 04:35:56 pm
The Icelandic National Broadcasting Service are reporting that the ship has been spotted and was drifting into Sandvík, right outside of Keflavík on April 1st.Can anyone confirm this ?


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: Kelvin Davies on April 01, 2013, 04:58:56 pm
Does April Fools day operate in Iceland too?


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: Damien McCarthy on April 01, 2013, 05:03:40 pm
Good point.


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: Lars Brunkman on April 01, 2013, 05:07:39 pm
I wouldn't take any news reported on 1st of April too seriously ;) Still, it caould be true, but I have my doubts.


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: Damien McCarthy on April 01, 2013, 05:11:59 pm
Me to Lars as she has been reported sunk,Drifting for Iceland,Returning to the Caribbean and back in St Johns


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: Stefan Niederer on April 02, 2013, 10:42:51 am
 ;D Icelandic National Broadcasting Service - even that sounds not right.
I would have belived it, if it was "Reykjavík Dagbladid" or something like this... :-*


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: Lars Brunkman on April 02, 2013, 05:46:42 pm
There really is an Icelandic National Broadcasting Service
Link: http://www.ruv.is/english


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: Paul Bradshaw on April 02, 2013, 09:34:36 pm
Lars, what did they report?


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: Lars Brunkman on April 02, 2013, 10:19:42 pm
I found this article, but I don't know how to translate it.
http://www.ruv.is/frett/ljubof-orlova-enn-ofundin

I don't know any Icelandic, but it seems to be a confirmation that the "report" on April 1st was an Aprils Fools joke.


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: stantheman on April 02, 2013, 10:54:26 pm
All I did was click on the website you included and the Google translator did the translation. And yes it was an April fools joke.
 ;D


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: thomas724 on April 12, 2013, 06:22:51 pm
a bit of trivia here   for those of you in Canada on W network Undercover Boss Canada show watch the episode for Orkin and when hes in St John's you will see this ship tied up at the dock. There are a few shots of her and more than likely the last you will see of her


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: IRION29 on April 14, 2013, 01:12:23 am
Just a hypothetical ? Could another vessel, possibly untracked, come upon her and boarded her? Were the Engines operational when she was towed out to sea? Possibly re-started? or towed away? Rough seas would make it dangerous, but Possible? 


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: Lars Brunkman on April 14, 2013, 10:34:20 am
I think it's possible. Not very likely, but possible. But considering there's probably quite a few rats onboard, would anyone want to board her.

But you raise an interesting (at least to me) question: if her engines were operational why tow her in the first place?


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: Mac Mackay on April 14, 2013, 12:03:45 pm
Even if her engines were operational, she would need a crew, including officers, deckhands and engine room to operate. A tug has a much smaller crew.
Also the ship had been laid up a long time and was out of class-no certificates, etc., so she would not be allowed to leave port on her own without considerable expense.
She is a large piece of industrial waste, and not worth much to anyone except the scrap dealer. Why risk life to save her?


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: Damien McCarthy on April 14, 2013, 07:56:14 pm
Interesting question but why would her engines be active after about 2 years+


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: BarrySmith on April 16, 2013, 05:33:52 pm
These vessels under tow (even briefly...) to the scrap yard are not called dead ships for nothing.


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: Kai R on April 17, 2013, 06:54:40 am
she has been boarded by modern pirates. They are currently hiding the ship in their hideout in the Seychelles. After they have equipped her with modern weaponry, they are going to haunt the seven seas, highjacking cruiseships and container vessels. Captain is busy growing a black beard right this minute.

 ;D ;D


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: DanEarl on October 30, 2013, 09:03:08 am
In the Irish news a few days ago :

http://www.irishcentral.com/news/Rat-infested-hazardous-ghost-ship-disappears-in-Irish-Sea-228910271.html

Still floating ???? I don't think so !

Cheers, Dan.


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: mcmoha on November 02, 2013, 06:30:09 am
How can rats survive without food and water for so long time?  :o


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: davidships on November 02, 2013, 10:45:09 am
Apparently the "Irish Sea" now extends over the whole North Atlantic.


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: Allan RO on November 02, 2013, 10:55:39 am
I though the Irish Sea extended to Boston !!

Allan


Title: Re: Lyubov Orlova update
Post by: Damien McCarthy on November 02, 2013, 11:10:22 am
The Irish Sea is between Ireland and Britain.