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Title: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Robert Smith on September 02, 2012, 11:06:07 am
According to a message which was passed by Piet Sinke from Singapore these former Dutch Smit tugs have been put up for sale. That may mean an end to an era of "Dutch glory". Owners spent very recently plenty of money on the Rotterdam and London for large upgrades , talking about millions, and now this.

-Tug "London" Built 1975 in Holland, 74,83 m Loa, 13.500 BHP, 167 T Bollard Pull;
-Tug "Rotterdam" Built 1975 in Holland, 74.83 m Loa, 13.500 BHP, 167 T Bollard Pull;
-A.H.T. "Singapore" Built 1984 in Holland, 75.32 m Loa, 13.500 BHP, 189 T Bollard Pull.

All 3 tugs are well known in the towing market with a good reputation and performance. "London" and "Rotterdam" are sister-ships which have benefits from both operational but also marketing point of views. The "Singapore" is also an Anchor Handling Tug (AHT), which gives her more flexibilities for certain jobs. Next Special Survey on "London" and "Rotterdam" is due in 2015 and for Singapore it is due in 2014.
 
Sellers price ideas are:
"London"  US$ 2.7 mill
"Rotterdam" US$ 3.5 mill
"Singapore" US$ 6 mill
 


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Robert Smith on September 04, 2012, 05:42:37 pm
As mentioned earlier this week about the possible sale of the Svitzer Ocean Tugs, the crews onboard received the following e-mail :

Dear Colleagues,
 
Please be advised that it has been decided to seek buyers for all three of the SVITZER Ocean Towage tugs i.e. Singapore, Rotterdam and London.
This decision has been made as SVITZER considers Ocean Towage to be outside its future strategy focusing on Harbour Towage, Terminal Towage and Salvage.
For now the vessels will continue to trade and operate without any change. Exact future planning will be established during September and depends on a number of factors.
We will now work with the union and other relevant parties to establish the best way forward and any final decision will be subject to such consultations.
SVITZER Ocean Towage will comply will all its obligations towards its employees, customers and other stakeholders.
We will provide more detailed information during the coming weeks.

(Source: Piet Sinke)


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Jan Ove on January 18, 2013, 05:23:37 am
hello,

any news who will buy the 3 vessels?

last status:
ROTTERDAM and LONDON are laid up in the Dom.Rep.

regards
Jan


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Robert Smith on January 19, 2013, 02:34:06 pm
Regret no further news apart from the fact that the "Singapore" will join her sisters upon completion of her present employment.

 :-[


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Jan Ove on January 20, 2013, 05:24:11 am
In the Dominican republic the tug LONDON (ex SMIT LONDON) is renamed by the new owner GMS in GLOBAL CHANGE and the ROTTERDAM will be named GLOBAL DESTINY, the GLOBAL CHANGE is to depart with a tow from Santo Domingo to West Africa and from there with a tow to India.

Source:
Shippingnewsclippings 020 dated 20-01-2013‏
by Piet Sinke,
page 2

in addition more infos below:
http://www.towingline.com/archives/1724?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+towingline+%28Towingline.com%29

regards
Jan


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: rd77 on January 21, 2013, 12:59:46 pm
hmm, GMS is a scrap dealer and the next destination of one of the tugs in India  :(


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Robert Smith on January 21, 2013, 06:39:04 pm
Yes Ralph, I realized that but was afraid to say so ..... ::)


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Jan Ove on January 23, 2013, 08:52:39 am
too bad that none of the three ended up as a museums vessel in the Netherlands, at least the FURIE,HUDSON and ELBE are preserved !!


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: rd77 on January 24, 2013, 08:41:42 am
Don't forget the HOLLAND  :)  We do a pretty decent job at preserving tugs in Holland, despite many setback (think of all that the ELBE has had to go through). Yet it would have been really if one of these three ships had been preserved. Two of them have been around since before I was born (I'm from 1977) and it would be really strange to do without them.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Kai R on January 24, 2013, 03:11:56 pm
hmm, GMS is a scrap dealer and the next destination of one of the tugs in India  :(
but then where would you tow a dead ship to? It doesn´t mean the tug won´t come back.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: davidships on January 25, 2013, 10:28:55 pm
I wonder.
GMS are not just any old backroom cash buyer.  They position themselves as big and different - certainly seen as market leaders.
http://www.gmsinc.net/gms/home.php

The appointment of Diavlos Maritime Co (best known here as operator of PANTADYNAMOS) as managers, and the proper name changes suggest that they might well be used for a while for towing vessels for scrap rather than just making a one-way trip themselves.

But I'm not holding my breath.  The clue may be in the register they are moved to.  Anyone know yet?



Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Robert Smith on January 25, 2013, 11:56:40 pm
The "Singapore" completed het final tow and is now in Galveston awaiting disposal. Possibly also for GMS ?


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: davidships on March 21, 2013, 02:28:11 pm
Puerto Rico Towing Assists 'Run Out of Gas' Ship

Tugs 'Triton' and 'Honcho' of the Puerto Rico Towing & Barge Co. recently assisted a drifting vessel off the coast of Puerto Rico.

The cargo ship [!!!] Global Destiny, owned and operated by Diavlos Maritime based in Athen, Greece, called for assistance the morning of Saturday, March 16. The vessel reported that it had run out of fuel and was drifting approximately five miles off the coast of Dorado, approximately nine miles north west of San Juan. Puerto Rico.

Towing’s tug Triton came to the vessel’s aid and stood by the vessel until it was directed by the United States Coast Guard to proceed to the San Juan harbor anchorage.

On Monday, March 18, the disabled ship was towed by the tug Triton and tug Honcho to anchorage, where after receiving inspection and clearance by the USCG, the vessel was towed to Pier 11 for refueling.

Puerto Rico Towing’s Captain Neftali Padilla, celebrating his 15th year with the Company, was in charge of the rescue operation.

http://www.maritimepropulsion.com/news/puerto-rico-towing-assists-run-out-of-gas-ship-515


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: davidships on August 18, 2013, 07:04:10 pm
GLOBAL DESTINY ex-ROTTERDAM arrived this evening off Cadiz from Chaguaramas.

GLOBAL SUCCESS I ex-SINGAPORE still in Tampico area


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Robert Smith on August 18, 2013, 08:27:45 pm
Global Change (ex London) was scrapped in June so GMS seems to live up to it's reputation as a scrap dealer. One down, two to go

 >:(
rgds,
Robert.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: davidships on August 26, 2013, 09:51:03 am
GLOBAL DESTINY went down to Gibraltar 23-24/8 but has now returned to her position offshore Cadiz.  Anyone know what she is doing?


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: BarrySmith on August 26, 2013, 02:44:08 pm
She may be there to tow the LNG tanker ISABELLA to the Indian sub-continent for scrap. The Isabella is anchored
outside Cadiz and was sold recently - reportedly for further trading but that may well not be the case.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Robert Smith on August 26, 2013, 06:18:37 pm
The LNG tanker ISABELLA is laid up since August 2011 in Càdiz (Spain), so figure there is not much trading ahead. The tug may join her to the scrapyard.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: davidships on August 26, 2013, 09:40:42 pm
That looks right, Barry. ISABELLA is listed as "to be broken up" and seems to have been renamed MARISA under St Kitts flag (c/s V4UN3, MMSI 341470000).  But the plot thickens.

On 29/7 ISABELLA left her long lay-up in Cadiz (after having a PSC inspection that day) and went out to the offshore anchorage, just a little north of where she is now. Two days later - still as ISABELLA and using her Liberian call-sign and MMSI - she sailed south and transited Gibraltar Straits, making a steady 10-12kn until 1030UTC on 1/8 when she suddenly slowed to 2kn and turned back.  This was about 50nm SW of Almeria and 75nm N of Melilla.  It seems to be on that day that she changed to the new St Kitts identity and name. 

She stayed around that position until 6/8 when she slowly headed eastward and then in a loop down to the Algerian coast off Beni Saf, still at around 2kn. Then on 9/8 she headed westwards at a stately 4-5kn.  She had a very erratic course, passing Gibraltar on 11/8 and arriving back at the Cadiz anchorage the following day.  She and GLOBAL DESTINY have indeed been together at anchorage since 18/8 (apart from GD's little side-trip to Gibraltar 23-24/8 - perhaps to pick up some towing gear).

But note that GD had left Point Lisas via Chaguaramas on 2/8, so was presumably diverted to deal with the apparently-sick MARISA.  I have no idea where she had been heading.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Phil English on August 27, 2013, 11:09:17 am
Marisa ex Isabella was originally giving destination Dubai which then changed to Piraeus before, as David says, making an about turn and heading back to Cadiz.

Word is that Marisa has now been sold for further trading, rather than scrap, which could explain the sudden change in voyage pattern. However, my gut feeling is the same as Barry's and that both Isabella and GD will end up heading off together soon to the Indian sub-cont recycling yards

Brgds
Phil  


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Geir Vinnes on December 13, 2013, 05:22:30 am
GLOBAL DESTINY (7402439) arrived Alang 11.12.2013 so i guess she will be beached soon.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Tomas Østberg- Jacobsen on December 13, 2013, 06:39:41 am
You are a bringer of sad news today, dear Geir.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Robert Smith on December 13, 2013, 09:09:06 am
The end is nigh.....


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: davidships on December 13, 2013, 09:57:54 am
I don't think that we can be sure yet.  She has presumably delivered lng tanker MARISA, but not clear whether she will also go on the beach.  At present there is still an AIS signal, though apparently stationary.  So let's see whether that is turned off or not.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Phil English on December 13, 2013, 10:17:23 am
Local demolition reports for Alang confirm that the Marisa has arrived in tow (of Global Destiny). The Marisa is expected to be beached on the next tide but there's no mention of the Global Destiny. Normally (but not always) if the towing vessel is also going to be beached, local reports would say so.

Don't hold your breath though!

Brgds
Phil


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: davidships on December 13, 2013, 01:15:43 pm
Currently (1310 UTC) steaming southwards at a modest 4kn from overnight position and now abeam Alang and about 6 miles off, veering away.  If she makes a starbourd turn for a run-in that's probably razorblades, but if she keeps going - who knows.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: davidships on December 13, 2013, 11:06:25 pm
Teasing us!


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: davidships on December 14, 2013, 08:55:13 am
Still doing the same.  This slow continuous restricted movement implies to me that MARISA is still in tow.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Robert Smith on December 14, 2013, 12:33:11 pm
Thanks Davidships. Your keeping us informed is most appreciated.
Especially a lot of Dutch shiplovers are curious about her fate but fear the worst ...

Brgds,
Robert.

 :)


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Edvard Aaseboe on December 14, 2013, 12:54:55 pm
I see in the Ship Scraping list 13.12.13 that Global Destiny is sold to be scrapped at Alang:-(
Sorry

regards  Edvard


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Geir Vinnes on December 14, 2013, 01:54:21 pm
You are right Edvard,
http://merseyshipping.blogspot.no/2013/12/ship-demolitions-13th-december-2013_13.html


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: davidships on December 16, 2013, 02:10:49 am
Edging closer - though seems to have shed her tow as made a few 7kn bursts last evening.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Robert Smith on December 18, 2013, 07:18:46 pm
No news anymore since Dec. 16th. ? The I fear the worst....


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Tomas Østberg- Jacobsen on December 18, 2013, 09:54:51 pm
Smit Rotterdam..... I buildt a wooden model of her as a kid, and i have seen her "live" once, absolutly the nicest tug i know of.
Sad news. My favoriteship of all times, "Tore Hund" also went to the breakers recently.

Oh well, thats life...


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: davidships on December 20, 2013, 09:41:04 am
Still at anchor off Alang this morning 0904UTC


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Phil English on December 20, 2013, 09:48:12 am
And still no indication on local demolition reports that she is due to be beached.

Brgds
Phil


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: davidships on December 21, 2013, 11:16:54 am
Now moved north, away from Alang Beach itself, to an anchorage off Ghoga (but this is also used as a pre-beaching anchorage).


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: davidships on December 25, 2013, 02:20:59 am
Not yet.

Sailed 23/12 from Alang area for Colombo, ETA 29/12.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Robert Smith on December 25, 2013, 11:13:43 pm
Well David, that's a surprise. Thanks for the input!

Brgds,
Robert.
 ;)


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Geir Vinnes on February 06, 2014, 01:13:26 am
Now the GLOBAL SUCCESS I (8213964) also have India as destination, ETA is 10/04 so maybe she is towing another vessel for demolition ?


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: davidships on February 09, 2014, 02:13:31 am
Indeed, GLOBAL SUCCESS I sailed Cadiz Anchorage 31/1 with lng ANNABELLA (IMO 7328243), sister of MARISA.  Should pass Dakar 10/2.

GLOBAL DESTINY still in Colombo (awaiting orders?).


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: DutchHannibal on February 23, 2014, 04:38:03 pm
So if I read right, the Destiny is in Colombo and the Succes is heading for Alang with a scrapper?
I sailed the London whilst under Smit flag. Fenominal ships..
 :'(


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: davidships on February 23, 2014, 04:50:14 pm
GLOBAL DESTINY sailed Colombo 21/2, heading SE

GLOBAL SUCCESS I, towing ANNABELLA to India, off Sierra Leone coast 12/2.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: DutchHannibal on February 23, 2014, 05:46:35 pm
Thanks for the quick reaction, I get that this is inevetable, but it still pains me. they're old ladies, but still so beautifull...


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Bergen Shipspotter on February 23, 2014, 08:38:01 pm
I was onboard Smit Rotterdam in 1985 when she came to Aagotnes in Norway when she came in with her tow, the drilling rig Polar Pioneer.  She had towed the New built rig from the Far East.  She thereafter left for her home port for dry docking. A lovely tug and at that time one of the worlds strongest.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: DutchHannibal on February 23, 2014, 10:00:28 pm
lovely indeed, built to look impressive and to be strong. Wonderfull vessels to sail, the best engines I know, they'll be missed.. :'(


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Geir Vinnes on February 25, 2014, 01:57:36 pm
Batam, Indonesia is the destination for GLOBAL DESTINY.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: DutchHannibal on February 25, 2014, 03:58:05 pm
Doing 8.6, so not towing anything
Succes hasnt been heard from since 12/2...I wonder..


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Geir Vinnes on March 01, 2014, 09:04:58 am
Could it be that she is there to pick up AMAR (7432903) which still seems to be at Batam ?
AMAR at Batam 21/11-2013 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/33438735@N08/10994994066).


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: rd77 on March 02, 2014, 09:30:10 am
Hi Geir, I doubt it, as the AMAR ran aground years ago and would probably have to be broken up on the spot. However, isn't Labuan nearby? There are loads of ships laid up there.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: DutchHannibal on March 03, 2014, 06:27:18 pm
Destiny is headed towards Glangbaru, I don't know what she's going to do, doing 9 knots atm.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: davidships on March 04, 2014, 12:02:06 am
GLOBAL SUCCESS I rounding Cape of Good Hope for India .




















Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Tony_Birdman on March 14, 2014, 03:14:56 am
any news on the 'sucess' i see an article back from last year that Tsavliris had chartered it from GMS.

http://www.tsavliris.com/news_details.php?division=salvage%20and%20towage%20services&record=113


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: davidships on March 15, 2014, 09:24:21 pm
GLOBAL SUCCESS I in 025°22.009'S, 050°16.281'E (SE of Madagascar) today making 9½kn.  ETA India 10 April.  Apparently still managed by Diavlos.

GLOBAL DESTINY passing Port Klang today at 2½kn for Chittagong with tow.  ETA 29 March.
Apparently changed manager 2/2014 to Arka Global Marine Services LLC, Dubai


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Tony_Birdman on March 29, 2014, 11:06:20 am
any more news on the vessels. i see on marinetraffic they are out of range but looking on equasis they are still in service, but they will be due for some survey work in the next few months.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: davidships on March 29, 2014, 11:23:04 am
GLOBAL SUCCESS I and her tow called Port Louis anchorage 22-23/3.  ETA India remains 10/4.

GLOBAL DESTINY called Colombo anchorage 26-27/3 with tow. Now destination changed to Karachi, ETA 14/4


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Peter Karberg on April 09, 2014, 07:56:18 pm
Global Destiny is now anchored off Gadani. See Marine Traffic site.

Regards

Peter


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: smithy166 on April 09, 2014, 10:13:38 pm
Looks like this might be the end for the Destiny :/


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: davidships on April 09, 2014, 10:38:04 pm
Quote
Looks like this might be the end for the Destiny :/

Why?  She has clearly arrived with tow (it will be interesting to discover what, in due course) and, judging by the slow circling, is keeping hold of her, perhaps until daylight - we will have to see.  Just as likely she will set off to pick up something else that cannot make it there under own power.

Meanwhile GLOBAL SUCCESS I, with her tow, c100nm W of Mormugao still declared as heading for Alang with ETA revised to 13/4 (her course, from Mauritius to Alang seems to have gone much further east than I would have expected, but i assume that her nor-westerly course is now to skirt the Indian oilfield activities off Mumbai.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: smithy166 on April 09, 2014, 10:47:55 pm
My apologises - After double checking marinetraffic she does appear to be anchored with tow, and not simply anchored on her own, as I first thought! I really should go to bed instead of spending all night on here...

It will defiantly be interesting to see what she's got on the wire.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Peter Karberg on April 12, 2014, 01:41:49 pm
Marine Traffic has Global Success 1 now in Indian waters approaching Alang.

Global Destiny out of range off Gadani last position showed has it move closer to the beach and was at anchor. Possible it has handed over tow.

regards

Peter


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: DutchHannibal on April 14, 2014, 06:24:47 am
Succes heading Alang doing 8 kn atm....keeping my fingers crossed.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Tony_Birdman on April 14, 2014, 12:08:19 pm
its a shame that svitzer sold the trio of tugs to anyone. :(


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: DutchHannibal on April 14, 2014, 01:31:55 pm
Succes is circling around with eta Alang 07:00h. Tomorrow.....makes me shiver. ???


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Bernd Urbanik on April 14, 2014, 06:49:25 pm
Global Success 1 towed MT Annabella Imo 7328243
Best regards Bernd


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: DutchHannibal on April 14, 2014, 08:32:06 pm
And now? She's doing roughly 7 knots atm....that wouldnt bee towing, I at least havent ever towed that fast, so it makes me wonder if Alang is her final destination. If she is towing however, it could be a drop off..


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: DutchHannibal on April 15, 2014, 11:38:54 am
I just thought...what about the other two smaller ones, Smit Houston (later Solo, Waker) en the Smit New York?
Houston has been demolished in 2010 after a fire in the engineroom, but New York is still active in Singapore under the new name "Hua An". Not the same as the three mentioned before but nevertheless very important to Dutch towing history.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: DutchHannibal on April 15, 2014, 06:10:59 pm
Succes underway to Alang atm, 3 others waiting around there..



Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: DutchHannibal on April 16, 2014, 05:36:53 pm
Destiny is being very silent, very near to the beach of Gadani by the way


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Robert Smith on April 16, 2014, 09:20:42 pm
Slowly but surely I feel this may really be the end ...


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: davidships on April 16, 2014, 11:54:54 pm
Looks worrying for GLOBAL DESTINY. Off-air since 15/4

GLOBAL SUCCESS I is still circling with her tow off Alang.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: DutchHannibal on April 17, 2014, 05:17:52 am
I may sound stupid, but how do we know she's under tow?


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: DutchHannibal on April 17, 2014, 05:25:13 am
Now Succes has not reported for a few hours and there's no track anymore, so disconnecting if she's under tow?....or a hard portside turn making about 270?
Does anyone know about live satelite camera vieuws one could use? The ones I found certainly are'nt live.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Tomas Østberg- Jacobsen on April 17, 2014, 07:14:16 am
Global Success is moving now, southwest, doing 7 knots.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Tomas Østberg- Jacobsen on April 17, 2014, 07:48:28 am
Ye olde Athens Trader is now bound for the beach doing 16 knots, Global Success is on her trail doing 7..


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: kim holm on April 17, 2014, 09:20:58 am
destiny is now underway, destination HIGH SEAS


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: davidships on April 17, 2014, 09:28:05 am
GLOBAL SUCCESS I is still on the move at varying speeds (currently 2kn) off Alang beaches, about 5-6nm off the coast.  Don't forget that tracking on MarineTrffic annoyingly goes off from time to time.

If she had no tow (she's not "under tow"), she sould be sitting quietly at anchor, not burning fuel, like S TRADER ex-ATHENS TRADER has been for a week, awaiting her turn and completion of paperwork/payment.

Meanwhile GLOBAL DESTINY now on the move at 3kn about 25nm W of Gadani Beach, now showing destination as "high seas" (suspect that she just dropped off AIS reception area for a couple of days).


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: DutchHannibal on April 17, 2014, 09:40:30 am
I used to sail on them, and you're right, "under tow" is incorrect. We never made speeds like 8 knots while towing, but then again I only towed platforms, maybe a dead ship can achieve 8 knots under tow. I juyst thought it to be a high speed for towing.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Tony_Birdman on April 17, 2014, 12:02:58 pm
I just thought...what about the other two smaller ones, Smit Houston (later Solo, Waker) en the Smit New York?
Houston has been demolished in 2010 after a fire in the engineroom, but New York is still active in Singapore under the new name "Hua An". Not the same as the three mentioned before but nevertheless very important to Dutch towing history.

Yes Dutch Hannibal, i have heard of those other tugs you mentioned above, so are they based on the same design only smaller?


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Tony_Birdman on April 17, 2014, 12:06:47 pm
I used to sail on them, and you're right, "under tow" is incorrect. We never made speeds like 8 knots while towing, but then again I only towed platforms, maybe a dead ship can achieve 8 knots under tow. I juyst thought it to be a high speed for towing.

so you were on board Dutch Hannibal, so what was it like on board one of those tugs?
what were you when on the tugs?
im just interested in what it was like on there as i have never been on a tug of that size.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: DutchHannibal on April 17, 2014, 01:40:50 pm
They were epic. Really terrific ships, excellently built for the job. Not new anymore offcoarse...but they felt mighty. When we held abandon ship drills and sailesd back in the lifeboats I felt proud.
The two smaller ones were the Smitwijs New York and the Smit Houston (later Solo for Greenpeace and after that Waker for the Dutch coastguard). New York sailes on as Hua An and the Waker had an enigeroom fire and was written off.
They had the 6 ci. Tm410's and the big ones had the 9's.
I was a maritime officer.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Tony_Birdman on April 17, 2014, 09:21:53 pm
They were epic. Really terrific ships, excellently built for the job. Not new anymore offcoarse...but they felt mighty. When we held abandon ship drills and sailesd back in the lifeboats I felt proud.
The two smaller ones were the Smitwijs New York and the Smit Houston (later Solo for Greenpeace and after that Waker for the Dutch coastguard). New York sailes on as Hua An and the Waker had an enigeroom fire and was written off.
They had the 6 ci. Tm410's and the big ones had the 9's.
I was a maritime officer.

oh ok, well it sounds like fun.
so what was it like in rough weather?

yeah i remember the waker engine room fire.
Hua An still sails, which is good.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: davidships on April 17, 2014, 11:53:07 pm
GLOBAL DESTINY now heading for Goa, ETA 24/4.
GLOBAL SUCCESS I still weaving her pirouettes


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: DutchHannibal on April 18, 2014, 05:09:51 am
Sailing a tug through rough weather at sea is very different than other ships because you're tighed up to something. Everytime the ship gets pushed ahead you feel it being held back. Even though you never get the towingwire out of the water (on long voyages)you feel it. And then there's the occasional frustration when you are releaved from watch, go rest, get back and find out that you have sailed backwards because the wind is pushing you back. (with rigs that is, which are the only tows I did). The other weather thing is that other mariners try to avoid hurricanes and such, on a tug you can't because you're too slow.
They were fine in storms, but you felt like being in a laundry machine..not very different to other types of ships. I think maybe the short length compared to large cargo vessels makes them bounce more, but I would'nt know for sure while I have only sailed suppliers, tugs and a roro across the north sea.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Tomas Østberg- Jacobsen on April 18, 2014, 06:34:07 pm
Strange stuff, i am watching marinetraffic pretty often now to see whats happening. The Global Success is the prettiest tug ever, in my eyes.
But i guess  she is outdated. Would have been a great yacht, for someone...

Would be nice to have her around some more time.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: DutchHannibal on April 18, 2014, 07:19:31 pm
I agree, very beautifull, back in the day when you would have a distress situation and saw that coming towards you (Full power because they make a tremendous bow and stern wave if you do that)you would feel saved even before they got to you. And the the no cure no pay came out.
They all (5) looked the same, except two were smaller and one was also built for anchor handling (which from what I heard she didn't do too well).
I wanted to sail on them since I was a kid, and did, I feel lucky.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Tony_Birdman on April 18, 2014, 11:30:29 pm
yeah i agree with you Tomas Østberg- Jacobsen, yeah they say the north sea can be a bit rough Dutch Hannibal.

so if you get stuck in a hurricane or a bad storm you just keep the heading or would you try heading for a safehaven if possible Dutch Hannibal.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: DutchHannibal on April 19, 2014, 07:28:13 am
North sea is maybe the roughest sea in the world due to the very short wavelengths. It's not a deep sea so waves tend to be short and very high beacause they stack up.
I never went into port because of a storm, but we did alter course to get the best angle to the waves. Thing is, while towing platforms; they take such a beating from wind that you practically sail in the direction of the wind. So in very bad cases, where that direction isnt safe youo can try hiding behind an island or something, but in the open you just rock it out. Most platforms arent able to get into ports anyway because of their size.
Also, you often tow them with multiple tugs, nearly impossible to go into a port. When disconnecting you need quite a few harbour tugs to keep the operation in control.

What do you other mariners do around here..(I'm new to this forum)..what ship do or did yous sail?


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Tony_Birdman on April 19, 2014, 11:47:35 am
North sea is maybe the roughest sea in the world due to the very short wavelengths. It's not a deep sea so waves tend to be short and very high beacause they stack up.
I never went into port because of a storm, but we did alter course to get the best angle to the waves. Thing is, while towing platforms; they take such a beating from wind that you practically sail in the direction of the wind. So in very bad cases, where that direction isnt safe youo can try hiding behind an island or something, but in the open you just rock it out. Most platforms arent able to get into ports anyway because of their size.
Also, you often tow them with multiple tugs, nearly impossible to go into a port. When disconnecting you need quite a few harbour tugs to keep the operation in control.

What do you other mariners do around here..(I'm new to this forum)..what ship do or did yous sail?


Hello Dutch Hannibal,
well im actually a Tug Enthusiast, been one since a kid, i have always wanted to be an engineer on a vessel, i know it sounds a bit embarrasing but i just wanted to know what is was like out in the north sea, i have seen many videos of safety stand by and supply-vessels even the London in the north sea towing.
im not sure if i can post a link in here but i have the link to a video of the London towing.
the vid is of the rotterdam and london in the gulf of mexico, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNGq_yyLQr8

thanks for telling us about what you have done Dutch Hannibal.

im sure others on here would be or have been on ships.

Tony.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: DutchHannibal on April 19, 2014, 12:25:12 pm
As far as I'm concerned anyone can be enthousiastic about anything and talk to anyone about it. I rather like beople being interested in this line of work. It seems quite roamntic, but it's a hard an very dangerous job. Many riscs and hazzards lie around the corner.
The video you uploaded is one made by a former captain which I sailed with with the same two ships in the same place a few years earlier. Terrific captain and an interesting man.
If you wanna know`more you can allways email me, I don't think people here are waiting for story's of old.
I get your interest offcoarse, I have been a tug enthousiast myself for as long as I can remember.

Here's an engineroom tour from onboard the Singapore, the enginerooms don't differ much between the five ship.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_gjZRYHlrQ&list=PLW6LvyhHZqVr0iiv7zYM1GrxxjW1M2Vt7&index=10


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Tony_Birdman on April 19, 2014, 12:35:26 pm
ok Dutch Hannibal, i'll have a look at that video, i have seen some of the videos on you-tube.
at times i can be on there for hours looking at suggested or other videos.

if i wanna know more i'll email or message you some time.
Tony.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: DutchHannibal on April 20, 2014, 07:04:29 pm
Global Succes has come to a stop just off Alang beaching area.
Destiny is still heading for Goa.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Tomas Østberg- Jacobsen on April 20, 2014, 07:33:44 pm
Doesnt look to optimistic.....
I thought she was heading for the beach earlier today, as she headed for the beach at 10 knots.
Oh well. Thats life.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: davidships on April 20, 2014, 09:03:38 pm
Looks like she needed a couple of goes at getting her tow going in the right direction.  Cannot tell whether she had asisstance form any local vessels.

Hoping that her current anchorage - in line with some other oldies heading for the beach - is just a convenient resting place, not a prelude to her own final dash


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Geir Vinnes on April 21, 2014, 01:57:34 am
GLOBAL SUCCESS I now has Eta. Singapore 01/05-2014 :-)


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Tony_Birdman on April 21, 2014, 04:40:53 am
GLOBAL SUCCESS I now has Eta. Singapore 01/05-2014 :-)

Thats good then.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Geir Vinnes on April 21, 2014, 01:29:09 pm
Hmm, now GLOBAL SUCCESS I has changed her destination again and has Eta. Mumbai 22/04-2014.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Tomas Østberg- Jacobsen on April 21, 2014, 02:08:25 pm
Are they just playing games with us, hehe! She seems to sail away now.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: DutchHannibal on April 21, 2014, 07:06:42 pm
I think you're right Tomas, their just doing this to confuse us, it's a distraction and meanwhile they repicating them so we'll never have to miss them  ;)

By the way, I'd really like to see the video you link, but it won't show.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Tomas Østberg- Jacobsen on April 21, 2014, 07:29:41 pm
Hehe, just some pictures from the tug Bruse:
https://www.facebook.com/tomas.ostbergjacobsen/media_set?set=a.55551021060.90884.537686060&type=3
https://www.facebook.com/tomas.ostbergjacobsen/media_set?set=a.81151356060.114926.537686060&type=3

If it dont work, let me know.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: DutchHannibal on April 21, 2014, 08:43:37 pm
Nice, joystick tug, we didnt have that (would have wanted it though)


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: DutchHannibal on April 22, 2014, 06:03:27 am
Destiny is now still in the water near Goa.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: davidships on April 23, 2014, 11:56:30 am
Didn't go as far as Goa, DH. But weaving a strange course NW of Mumbai and now showing "not under command"  Looks like some sort of engine problem.  All the recent track has been at about 1kn, except for the northerly run, which kept up a steady 7kn until dropping back again to 1kn now.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Robert Smith on April 23, 2014, 06:28:09 pm
Feel this is not good ...


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: DutchHannibal on April 23, 2014, 08:09:34 pm
Doesnt "not under command" mean that there is no owner that they know of?...I don't know. Destination is now Mumbai, so repairs or owner change.....maybe a pick up? The other one is a couple of miles South stationary.

Also, if anyone likes this, a youtube clip from onboard the Waker, Coastguard emergency respons vessel (ex name Solo (Greenpeace), Smit Houston) and sister of Smit New York, now Hua An. They were the two smaller sisters of the ones we're following here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFtvBVrIb9Y
Especially the first bit shows how they sail in adverse weather.
I also found this one, deck tour on the Succes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lq8EYkU9mk0


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: davidships on April 23, 2014, 08:55:05 pm
The master won't keep his job long if he doesn't know who his boss is!  "Not under command" is a standard expression to warn other vessels that the ship is not able to manoeuvre properly (or at all), follow the Collision Regulations (Colregs) etc - please put me right if I've got that wrong, Capt Ted.  The two tugs are about 200 miles apart at the moment.



Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Tony_Birdman on April 23, 2014, 09:56:37 pm
looks as if they have no plans to scrap them at the moment, if they were to become uneconomical then they would decide to scrap, the company dont have any ocean going tugs do they? maybe thats the reason they still have them cause it maybe cheaper to have your own tugs?


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: DutchHannibal on April 24, 2014, 06:22:48 pm
Hi Davidships, I didnt know that term. I only know "unmanoeuverable" or "dead in the water" and "limited manoeuverability", and "crippled".
Offcoarse I understand that a master must know his boss, but I know from my own experience that masters are sometimes told to wait somewhere while negotiations are held and paperwork is being pushed. That's a very stressfull and uncertain time. We once had a stranger come up the gangway telling us to show him the ship, we were flabbergasted and asked who he was. He then introduced himself as the new owner.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: davidships on April 24, 2014, 09:46:42 pm
Thanks DH.  You reminded me about "limited manoeuverability", although I know it as "restricted manoeuverability". That's in the Colregs too and they have different meanings, defined in Rule 3(f) and (g) - http://navruleshandbook.com/Rule3.html.  But you are right, there are lots of "ordinary" ways of describing the situation.

I see that GLOBAL SUCCESS I has anchored this afternoon (she had a 7-8kn burst just before).



Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Captain Ted on April 25, 2014, 04:42:46 pm
There are only the terms "restricted manoeuverability" and Not under Command

It is a kind of confusing the terms:  "unmanoeuverable" or "dead in the water" and "limited manoeuverability", and "crippled" do not exist neither in the colregs nor otherwise. They exist however in plain English where peoples do not know or also the English is not good enough an so on (nothing to do now with not knowing better, it is maritime specific)

Restricted maneuverability means for example a dredger or a tug which tows or drills ships
at work,,but always when they are at work,, a dredger is not restricted when it not dredges
for example.
Not under command is a situation where a ship has a problem, usually of technical nature
this could include that for example it steers on manual rudder or the rudder can only
be operated to 15 degrees each side and not fully to the sides. Or the engine operates only
on ahead,,not astern anymore or only at 30% capacity.  and so and so on.

Not under Command has therefore nothing to do with that the capt or officers are all drunk or if they don,t know who the owner is (actually not uncommon that at all, often crews know the operator, the crew agent but not the real owner)or if they don,t know otherwise what they are doing, which actually is also not seldom when one sees some situations


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: DutchHannibal on April 25, 2014, 07:52:56 pm
Thanks CT, I cant remember ever learning the term, but maybe it differs between the Netherlands and other places, though 5hat shouldnt be the case. I can just aswell have forgotten, its been long since I had tolearn colregs. And offcoarse I learned them in Dutch, and we had to learn the respective terms in IMOEnglish in the English class. When I sailed the tugs we are following, all officers were Dutch, so among each other we spoke Dutch.
whichever reason it may be, doesnt matter. They are both still anchored I presume, and it really bothers me that they use them like they do. We were proud to sail them and kept them in perfect shape. They were excellent ships, old offcoarse, but stll perfectly fit for the job. We went through hurricanes and everything van else and they held together like heroes (as did the top skilled crew).
i would have loved it if a foundation would rescue one.
Has anyone seen the Hua An move at all? Since we have been talking about the bigger ones, I havent ever seen that one do anything.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Captain Ted on April 25, 2014, 08:15:53 pm
@DH

You must getting old then :-)))
I lerned those terms in 1975 and they never changed and for the fact
that those are international COLREGS  (can,t be that countries hve different COLREGS, unless inland COLREGS,,Those are different from country to country)
they MUST be the same otherwise there would be total chaos at sea,,not that we don,t have that today not !!!!
But I share your sentiment for old ships/tugs, but then not all old ships can be preserved
also when one might whish. The Netherlands however have already quite a big number of old ships/tugs etc preserved, at least what I saw over the years when I came there on and off



Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: DutchHannibal on April 25, 2014, 08:58:11 pm
I know, they cant and yes we do.
Offcoarse youre right aboutcth de colregs, I just cant remember the term, although I did remember the "restricted" one.
about van prserving, these are so incredibly different van than others......it just saddens me.
What do you sail CT?


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Tony_Birdman on April 25, 2014, 10:08:40 pm
Thanks CT, I cant remember ever learning the term, but maybe it differs between the Netherlands and other places, though 5hat shouldnt be the case. I can just aswell have forgotten, its been long since I had tolearn colregs. And offcoarse I learned them in Dutch, and we had to learn the respective terms in IMOEnglish in the English class. When I sailed the tugs we are following, all officers were Dutch, so among each other we spoke Dutch.
whichever reason it may be, doesnt matter. They are both still anchored I presume, and it really bothers me that they use them like they do. We were proud to sail them and kept them in perfect shape. They were excellent ships, old offcoarse, but stll perfectly fit for the job. We went through hurricanes and everything van else and they held together like heroes (as did the top skilled crew).
i would have loved it if a foundation would rescue one.
Has anyone seen the Hua An move at all? Since we have been talking about the bigger ones, I havent ever seen that one do anything.

i see the Hua An was anchored offshore from singapore, someone has uploaded a picture of it on 22nd march 2014 and its anchored in the picture, also i see the owner of it is shanghai salvage, so maybe they are waiting for another job.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: DutchHannibal on April 30, 2014, 07:09:15 pm
Could be, I hope they find some nice tough jobs for her.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: davidships on May 04, 2014, 01:38:54 am
GLOBAL SUCCESS I on the move again at steady 10kn for Jafarabad.
GLOBAL DESTINY still anchored NW of Mormugao


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: DutchHannibal on May 05, 2014, 07:28:03 am
I'm not sure, according to Marine Traffic she's still stationary with destination Jafarabad.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: davidships on May 05, 2014, 09:23:00 am
GLOBAL SUCCESS I was anchored near Mumbai before, now she's anchored 15 miles off Jafarabad. May not be a good sign though.

GLOBAL DESTINY unchanged

HUA AN sailed Singapore area on Saturday 7/5 for Cilacap, Java (she was there before in March 2014)


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: DutchHannibal on May 07, 2014, 08:57:07 pm
Destiny seems to be towing to Goa.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: davidships on May 07, 2014, 09:53:41 pm
Yes DH, definitely on the move at c5kn, but heading NNW, away from Goa.  Most likely towing a scrap ship for Alang or Gadani - time will tell (of if the crew update their destinaton on AIS)

HUA AN now at Cilacap


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Geir Vinnes on May 08, 2014, 04:08:33 pm
Gadani it is with Eta. 14/05-2014 2000 UTC.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: DutchHannibal on May 08, 2014, 06:37:48 pm
Succes now moving to Mumbai at 10 knots.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: DutchHannibal on May 10, 2014, 03:35:06 pm
Arrived and at anchor now.


Title: former SMIT NOORDZEE (IMO 7008788) t.b. scrapped
Post by: Jan Ove on May 17, 2014, 09:19:53 pm
Gents,

it looks like that another Smit tug, the SMIT NOORDZEE, last sailing under iranian flag as YAL (1970 NOORDZEE, 1986 SMIT NOORDZEE, 1988 DAFI) has found its end...


http://www.sportenrozenburg.nl/index.php/port-of-rozenburg/haven-en-zeesleepvaart/312-de-noord-zee-van-smit-wordt-gesloopt


http://www.tugspotters.com/site/content/2014/04/hollands-vergane-glorie/

regards
Jan


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: davidships on May 18, 2014, 12:10:08 am
GLOBAL SUCCESS I sailed for anchorage off Jafarabad on 16/5 giving destination as 24 13.3N 066 14E.  That's about 65nm SW of Karachi.  Something broken down?

GLOBAL DESTINY still about 10nm off Gadani Beach.



Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: davidships on May 20, 2014, 05:01:37 pm
GLOBAL SUCCESS now circling slowly SW of Diu, so quite possibly now something in tow.
No change to GLOBAL DESTINY.

(later) GLOBAL SUCCESS I now anchored overnight S of Alang at 21°11'01.6"N 72°08'32.6"E
She was making 13kn towards there, and if she indeed anchored, I take it she has no tow.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Phil English on May 23, 2014, 09:18:46 am
Global Success I now listed on Alang Port Position reports as due to arrive 25/5/2014 for demolition at plot 47.

Brgds
Phil


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: DutchHannibal on May 26, 2014, 08:32:34 pm
So is it traceble....I mean, if it happened?
I cant find anything.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Robert Smith on May 26, 2014, 09:44:10 pm
Unfortunately the AIS is often switched off prior to beaching. But we'll find out soon enough in the registers....  :-\


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: davidships on May 26, 2014, 11:54:26 pm
GLOBAL SUCCESS I anchored off Bhavnagar 25/5.  The usual "waiting room" for Alang.

GLOBAL DESTINY entered Karachi port 25/5.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: DutchHannibal on May 27, 2014, 10:14:45 am
Can someone link the registers?, haven't had any luck finding them.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Robert Smith on May 27, 2014, 10:15:39 pm
This is what I found in Equasis:

IMO number :   8213964
Name of ship :   GLOBAL SUCCESS I   (since 01/02/2013)
Call Sign :   3FDT2
MMSI :   356816000   
Gross tonnage :   2673   (since 01/11/2009)
DWT :   1985
Type of ship :   Tug   (since 01/05/1984)
Year of build :   1984
Flag :   Panama    (since 01/02/2013)
Status of ship :   To Be Broken Up   (since 23/05/2014)
Last update :   27/05/2014


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: davidships on May 28, 2014, 12:52:59 am
GLOBAL SUCCESS I arrived off Alang from Dahej Anchorage midday 27/5 and AIS transmissions seem to have ceased 2047UTC.  Status changed from "to be broken up" to "broken up 27/5/2014" on IHS-Fairplay, and I would expect Equasis to follow that in due course.  But actual beaching time not yet confirmed.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Bernd Urbanik on May 29, 2014, 11:54:24 am
Global Success I (Imo8213964)beached today at Alang Plot 47
Best regards Bernd


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Tomas Østberg- Jacobsen on May 29, 2014, 08:40:14 pm
Strange to feel so sad about a ship no more, but this was sad.

Bye bye, old tug.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: DutchHannibal on May 30, 2014, 12:48:42 pm
I feel the same....sad, only two left.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: davidships on June 01, 2014, 01:15:03 am
GLOBAL DESTINY still in Karachi port, but status showhn as "broken up".
That seems premature, but a bit ominous. 


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Tony_Birdman on June 01, 2014, 08:42:20 am
The "Global Destiny" (ex Smit Rotterdam) entered Karachi port coming from Gadani Shipbreaking on May 25, 2014, and docked at the West Wharf at 6.30 a.m. to be broken up at plot 47. (Source: Vesseltracker)

the above i copied from the tugs towing and offshore newsletter.

such a shame that they ended up in the hands of a scrapping company, and ended up as scrap, seems to me they just bought them to be used as scrap towing tugs until they became to costly and or not wanted anymore.

must have had more value as scrap to the owners.

only we could hope the destiny may hold on a few more weeks or longer.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: DutchHannibal on June 01, 2014, 08:50:16 am
Man!.....I hate for them to be lost, especially like this. Inevitable though I guess.
That just leaves us with Hua An.

I was hoping to be able to show my kids where dad used to work if one ever was to be sent in our vacinity. Didnt happen, and now they're done for.

 :'( :-X >:(


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Bernd Urbanik on June 01, 2014, 09:08:42 am
The "Global Destiny" (ex Smit Rotterdam) entered Karachi port coming from Gadani Shipbreaking on May 25, 2014, and docked at the West Wharf at 6.30 a.m. to be broken up at plot 47. (Source: Vesseltracker)

Thats Wrong!Global Success 1 beached at Alang at Plot 47!
Tim write it wrong at Vesseltracker.
If you go on Google Earth,you can see no Scrapyard at this Point.There is a normal Port
Best regards Bernd


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: DutchHannibal on June 03, 2014, 05:02:10 am
According to Equasis she's still "in commission".


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: davidships on June 03, 2014, 08:30:40 am
The "status" on IHS-Fairplay (Seaweb) as "broken up" (changed on 25/5) is clearly at least premature, if not wrong.  She is still breathing (ie AIS is still on) and she remains at the same commercial berth in Karachi port.

Don't forget that Equasis data is not the latest.  There is a time lag of at least a week - and they get their updates on ships in service mainly from IHS-Fairplay.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Robert Smith on June 03, 2014, 08:49:17 pm
I feel the end is near. As soon as there won't be any work left or when commercially viable, this old tug will be gone....  :-\


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Tony_Birdman on June 04, 2014, 11:05:26 pm
yeah i agree with you robert, i think she is due for a special survey soon, i just wonder if they will want to do the survey or just just scrap her, does anyone know how much a special survey would cost on a vessel that size. it would have its anti-foul renewed and a lick of paint above.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Tony_Birdman on June 04, 2014, 11:13:43 pm
i only just realised that the smit singapore was broken up and not the rotterdam, strange though that the singapore (global success 1) was younger than the rotterdam (global destiny)
their new names can be confusing as i know them better as the former.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: DutchHannibal on June 05, 2014, 06:03:28 am
Me too, I liked the old names way better, but that's because of the title of this topic. They were born with those names, and I sailed them with those names. I was allways proud to call a port, traffic centre or ship and naming our ships.
The Singapore was indeed nearly ten years younger. She is also a anchor handler (not a very good one), while the rest were plain tugs (exceptionally good ones).
I hate for them to be scrapped, but they are ridiculously expensive to maintain, sail (around 40 tons of fuel per 24 hours when on full power and towing) or insure so it's near i,possible for a non profit bunch of peeps or a museum to keep them. Unless they can berth one and disable the propulsion in order to not need working insurance and just keep her as museum ship. But even then, the scrapvalue is about a million dollars I guess, so try finding someone to sponsor it.....not easy.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Tony_Birdman on June 05, 2014, 12:21:15 pm
Me too, I liked the old names way better, but that's because of the title of this topic. They were born with those names, and I sailed them with those names. I was allways proud to call a port, traffic centre or ship and naming our ships.
The Singapore was indeed nearly ten years younger. She is also a anchor handler (not a very good one), while the rest were plain tugs (exceptionally good ones).
I hate for them to be scrapped, but they are ridiculously expensive to maintain, sail (around 40 tons of fuel per 24 hours when on full power and towing) or insure so it's near i,possible for a non profit bunch of peeps or a museum to keep them. Unless they can berth one and disable the propulsion in order to not need working insurance and just keep her as museum ship. But even then, the scrapvalue is about a million dollars I guess, so try finding someone to sponsor it.....not easy.

so they are expensive to run, if they were say around 15 years old, they would be worth while keeping then but the age they are now with all the up-keeping let alone costs for dry-docking does make it look better to scrap, but still its a shame to see such good vessels go to the scrapheap.
global destiny may be waiting, it may have down (to be scrapped) but they may have other ideas for her still.

on the subject of expense, it must be much much cheaper to run an anchor handler then one of these old girls, and i know one main reason availability of parts, they have main engines that probably have parts that are hard to source. i have an old 60's land rover and i know it can be hard to find certain parts.

Tony   


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: DutchHannibal on June 05, 2014, 07:20:07 pm
They have Stork Werkspoor 9TM410 mains, a company now owned by Warstila, the parts are still newly obtainable. They are also one of the best engines ever built (according to my opinion that is).


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Tony_Birdman on June 05, 2014, 10:14:10 pm
oh so they still have parts that are obtainable.
Wartsila and MAN have almost taken up all engine manufacturers.

we'll see what happens to the Destiny in the next few days. im sure if they didn't want her they could sell her on for more then scrap metal value. there would be someone out there that wants very good ocean going tug.


Title: SMIT SINGAPORE (IMO 8213964) SOLD TO THE BREAKERS
Post by: Jan Ove on June 06, 2014, 07:46:03 am
Today in the clippings:

The GLOBAL SUCCES I (built as Smit Singapore later Smitwijs Singapore followed by Singapore ) Arrived May 23rd 2014 at Alang and was sold May 25th 2014 to MARINE LINES SHIP BREAKERS (P) LTD., Alang and was beached May 29th 2014 on Plot 47 at Alang for scrapping.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/33438735@N08/14350776864/

source
Shippingnewsclippings 157 dated 06-06-2014, page 8, by Piet Sinke
http://www.maasmondmaritime.com

regards
Jan Ove


Title: Re: SMIT SINGAPORE (IMO 8213964) SOLD TO THE BREAKERS
Post by: Tony_Birdman on June 06, 2014, 08:34:01 am
Today in the clippings:

The GLOBAL SUCCES I (built as Smit Singapore later Smitwijs Singapore followed by Singapore ) Arrived May 23rd 2014 at Alang and was sold May 25th 2014 to MARINE LINES SHIP BREAKERS (P) LTD., Alang and was beached May 29th 2014 on Plot 47 at Alang for scrapping.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/33438735@N08/14350776864/

source
Shippingnewsclippings 157 dated 06-06-2014, page 8, by Piet Sinke
http://www.maasmondmaritime.com



regards
Jan Ove


ahh damn, that is bad news to read, like the flickr pic of her.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Tony_Birdman on June 11, 2014, 08:09:06 am
just looking at equasis and marinetraffic.com the Destiny is still in service anchored off shore Karachi.
she isn't due for her special survey till 19th October this year. if she hasnt caused her owners any trouble she may stay in service till then,

im going to look up the dates for the special surveys on the other vessels, global success 1 and global change.

Tony.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Dave van Spronsen on June 11, 2014, 09:25:33 am
From Facebook i have contact from someone from Gadani Beach and she is still not reported to the beach.
And he will let me know if something will change


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Phil English on June 11, 2014, 09:47:33 am
just looking at equasis and marinetraffic.com the Destiny is still in service anchored off shore Karachi.
she isn't due for her special survey till 19th October this year. if she hasnt caused her owners any trouble she may stay in service till then,

im going to look up the dates for the special surveys on the other vessels, global success 1 and global change.

Tony.


As already mentioned here, Global Destiny has not been scrapped nor sold for scrap. The information provided by vesseltracker and other sources is inaccurate. Also, as mentioned, Global Success I is already beached at Alang and is currently being turned into razorblades as I write.

Brgds
Phil


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Tony_Birdman on June 11, 2014, 10:23:43 am
ok phil.
as for the other vessels, i am trying to work out why they were scrapped, i have looked everywhere and cant find anything on the global destiny being scrapped, i know that vessel finder stuff is a hoax.
actually to make sure its a hoax im going to contact the registered owner of the vessel and see what the go is.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: DutchHannibal on June 16, 2014, 06:05:23 am
According to marine traffic she's still in Karachi.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: DutchHannibal on June 17, 2014, 06:49:42 pm
AIS Dockmaster it says...that explains why she's there for so long..


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Fred Vloo on June 22, 2014, 08:42:13 am
Global Destiny left Karachi this morning with destination Gadani.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Robert Smith on June 22, 2014, 12:59:37 pm
Thanks Fred.

Interestingly, I can't trace her anymore on Equasis.
Can anybody find out whether she is towing another vessel or sailing on her own ?
In the latter case I fear that'll be the end. It will only leave the "Hua An"(ex Smit New York) in operation.

Brgds,
Rob.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: davidships on June 22, 2014, 06:43:18 pm
After a very slow and erratic course, she seems to have ground to a halt about 9 miles SW of Karachi port entrance.  But no clue from AIS as to whether towing or not.

Equasis are just reflecting info from IHS-Fairplay who decided on 25 May that she was "broken up", a status which they have steadfastly refused to modify.  If they wait long enough, no doubt they'll say "Told you".

I fear that she is not towing.  If there was a scrap ship which was already at Karachi, I would have thought more local tugs would have handled the job more easily just to get her round the corner to Gadani. But, perhaps there is one more surprise for us in this story?


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: wervis on June 25, 2014, 02:21:16 pm
It doesn't look good for The Hua An

Destination: CHITTAGONG
ETA:
2014-06-24 18:00 (UTC)

She isn't visibel any more on AIS.

Does anyone know if she is already beached?
Only leaves the Rotterdam left


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: davidships on June 25, 2014, 03:39:10 pm
GLOBAL DESTINY appears to have remained anchored about 10 miles SW of Karachi port entrance for the last few days.  But maybe just waiting timing for appointment at Gadani Beach.  Last report at 1440UTC today. (By the way, IHS-Fairplay agreed to change status to "To be broken up", so she may reappear on Equasis next week.)

Last report I have of HUA AN is timed 1459UTC today, in 022°06.891'N 091°41.880'E heading south (ie away from Chittagong) at 5kn.


Title: former SMIT NOORDZEE (IMO 7008788) refloated
Post by: Jan Ove on June 25, 2014, 08:33:13 pm
Today in the clippings:

The partly sunken tug YAL , ex Smit Noordzee was refloated in Port Hamriah

The vessel is shown on 2 photos, on one the old name NOORDZEE was re-painted.... just a joke of the dutch?-salvage team?...

Source:
Shippingnewsclippings 176 dated 25-06-2014, page 10, by Piet Sinke
http://www.maasmondmaritime.com

regards
Jan Ove


Title: ex OCEANIC (IMO 6901490/ GL 5207)
Post by: Jan Ove on June 25, 2014, 08:46:16 pm
Gents,

as the right tugboat persons  :) read here, one short question:

OSMAN KHAN managed by http://atasalvage.com/ once Bugsiers famouns OCEANIC - I know  a previous german tug / not dutch but part of the great time of oceangoing tugs - is moored in Sharja/Dubai.

http://www.marinetraffic.com/de/ais/details/ships/636016116

Anybody has contact there to ask for photos/status?

thanks in advance for anykind of help

cheers
Jan


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: wervis on June 25, 2014, 08:57:55 pm
The Hua Am is according due the Chittagong Port Authority in the outer anchorage.

TUG HUA AN
67.50
4.0
date of arrival 25/06/14
Last Port SING
Flag MONRO
PSAL
CHARTERED VESSEL
BALLAST


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: DutchHannibal on June 26, 2014, 06:09:43 am
As far as I know Hua An is still in towing service.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: wervis on June 27, 2014, 08:33:00 am
Global Destiny is heading for the harbor, is she towing the vessel near her?(a 290mtr bulkcarrier with the status "death")


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: davidships on June 27, 2014, 10:03:05 am
Probably under tow, though possibly just escorting.  The bulker is XINSHENG HAI (IMO 8606094, name changed to "AAAAAAAA AAA" on her AIS signal, but which is no longer showing "death" as destination), and is now at an inner anchorage, presumably towed by local tugs.  She is another one prematurely listed as "Broken up 2/2014" - she was in China then, and has since been in the Arabian Gulf, moving between Fujairah and Messaieed (cargo of construction aggregates, perhaps)

GLOBAL DESTINY back on a commercial quay.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: davidships on June 27, 2014, 01:19:50 pm
This is a cautionary tale in interpreting AIS products.  A reliable source confirms that  XINSHENG HAI was definitely broken up at Xinhui in February.  The AIS kit must have been sold on as there was a test transmission picked up from a land location in nearby Guangzhou in March (presumably being tested by a dealer), and subsequently from locations in the Gulf. And to cap that, MarineTraffic today alternating between the Gulf and a vessel out of Wenzhou to an offshore island where there is a quarry, not to mention a plot or two from Salvador, Brazil!

Also, some flag states re-issue old MMSIs - XINSHENG HAI's Panamanian MMSI was issued earlier this month to the containership ANTWERP BRIDGE (IMO 9297527), currently between Fremantle and Sydney.

Now seems likely that it was the mystery vessel that towed in GLOBAL DESTINY, rather than the other way round.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: DutchHannibal on June 27, 2014, 01:26:03 pm
Meaning she's broken up anyway I presume..


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Phil English on June 27, 2014, 01:29:24 pm
You beat me to it David. COSCO confirmed to us that XINSHENG HAI was broken up at Xinhui in February and I was just about to post that the AIS signal on must be corrupt. The vessel with Global Destiny remains a mystery, however.

Brgds
Phil


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: davidships on June 29, 2014, 01:45:44 am
HUA AN now berthed Chittagong, but listed next to cargo ship GOLDEN TRIP (IMO 8224030), which is being scrapped.  Hmmm.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Geir Vinnes on June 29, 2014, 05:31:42 am
The last AIS signals I have seen from HUA AN was at 28 Jun 2014 22,53 UTC in position 21°59.598'N  091°41.558'E close to bulk carrier ENARXIS (8400452).


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Bernd Urbanik on June 29, 2014, 08:48:32 am
Hua An is for assist to Bulk Carrier  ENARXIS Imo 8400452 wich load salt(26250 to)

Best Regards Bernd


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: davidships on June 29, 2014, 08:19:54 pm
Please don't shoot the messenger.

Today's Maasmond Maritime newsletter (No.180 29/6/2014) has photo of GLOBAL DESTINY in tow at sea with caption:
"Final Trip for a Grand Lady: Global Destiny ex Svitzer Rotterdam under tow MT Endeavour of Seamax Marine Services, Global Destiny is due for beaching / scrap at Gaddani, Pakistan in next few days :( "

The photo is by Imran Farooq, taken from the ENDEAVOUR (IMO 7417513)


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: DutchHannibal on June 30, 2014, 06:37:14 pm
Hi Davidships, could you please link that clipping, I subscribed for Maasmond, but can't seem to find it.
Thanks.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Tony_Birdman on July 01, 2014, 08:44:45 am
yeah i remember reading that in the news letter. it was 180-29-06-2014  so it is in the Sunday 29th newsletter on page 9.

Tony.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: dickt on July 01, 2014, 06:44:07 pm
Global Destiny still in the port of Karachi.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: DutchHannibal on July 06, 2014, 11:33:44 am
Is anyone getting anything?


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: wervis on July 08, 2014, 02:59:07 pm
What cloud be the reason that the Global Destiny is that long in Karachi? Waiting for beaching? Or is there still hope?


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: dickt on July 08, 2014, 05:20:24 pm
Global Destiny seems not be longer in the port of Karachi according to Marine Traffic?


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: DutchHannibal on July 08, 2014, 05:44:27 pm
Not really, all hope has gone. It's a matter of time, noone cares for these tugs but a few Dutch and some tug enthousiasts. It's just a matter of time. I don't know if she's still in Karachi, she could very well be scrapped allready with tracking not knowing of it.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Dave van Spronsen on July 08, 2014, 07:44:20 pm
According to marinetraffic she is still in Karachi,Nothing special happened


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: DutchHannibal on July 10, 2014, 05:24:59 am
Could very well be, it's just not certain for as far as I learned here. I know nothing of these systems as they were not yet there when I sailed these ships. But she will eventually be beached one day.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: davidships on July 13, 2014, 09:12:45 am
YAL ex-SMIT NOORDZEE now being broken up at Sharjah.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: DutchHannibal on July 25, 2014, 08:25:11 pm
Nothing new on Global Destiny?


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: wervis on July 28, 2014, 08:43:22 am
It looks like her AIS signal is lost........
I fear the worst...
To bad


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Phil English on July 28, 2014, 10:19:16 am
Global Destiny still transmitting an AIS signal from Karachi 26th July and still showing destination Gadani.

Brgds
Phil



Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: wervis on July 28, 2014, 11:33:49 am
Since 26 july no more ais signals


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Phil English on July 28, 2014, 02:09:12 pm
Since 26 july no more ais signals

That's only 2 days ago!

People read far too much into AIS signals  ::)



Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: davidships on July 28, 2014, 03:08:49 pm
You are right, Phil, but in this case dont forget the Maasmond Maritime newsletter (No.180 29/6/2014) has photo of GLOBAL DESTINY under tow at sea, taken by Imran Farooq on the tug ENDEAVOUR (probably when she was being towed back into Karachi) with caption:
Quote
Final Trip for a Grand Lady: Global Destiny ex Svitzer Rotterdam under tow MT Endeavour of Seamax Marine Services, Global Destiny is due for beaching / scrap at Gaddani, Pakistan in next few days :(

Suspect that it's taken a few weeks to renogotiate/arrange the scrapping of the tug with a dicky engine.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Phil English on July 28, 2014, 03:13:07 pm
Yes, she is almost certainly going to Gadani for scrapping, David. It's just a question of when. As you say, the delay is probably to do with the dodgy engine.

Brgds
Phil


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: DutchHannibal on July 29, 2014, 08:45:25 pm
I loved those engines, 2x Stork Werkspoor 9tm410, epic engines. I can still hear them if i close my eyes.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: wervis on August 03, 2014, 10:04:55 am
Over week now no AIS signal... This must be the End for the Rotterdam....


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: DutchHannibal on August 03, 2014, 06:51:42 pm
That leaves us with Hua An then.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Robert Smith on August 05, 2014, 02:24:42 pm
Well, that's it. Piet Sinke's report no. 301 has pictures of the "Global Destiny" en route to Gadani Beach to be beached. A sad end for such a proud tug, once the most powerful in the world.

 :-\


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: davidships on August 10, 2014, 12:56:28 am
I have the in-tow photos in PS's "Daily collection of maritime press cuttings 2014, No.217" (5/8/2014).
Is "No.301" something else he circulates?


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Robert Smith on August 10, 2014, 09:18:28 pm
My  mistake. It is no. 217, not 301.....


Title: GLOBAL DESTINY (ex SMIT ROTTERDAM)
Post by: Jan Ove on September 01, 2014, 07:29:58 am
Gents,

Today in the DAILY COLLECTION OF MARITIME PRESS CLIPPINGS 2014 – 244/ Shippingnewsclippings 244 dated 01-09-2014,page 6; by Piet Sinke:

Quote:

LAST MILES FOR A “HERO”:
Received an e-mail from Arif Shaikh in Pakistan that last Saturday morning at 8 hrs lt the tug ENDEAVOUR connected up to the GLOBAL DESTINY (ex SMIT ROTTERDAM) at Karachi Port berth no 21 West Wharf and the transport departed at 08:30 hrs bound for Gadani Beach (Sunday) morning 03:00 hrs and the ones the strongest ocean going tug in the world was due to be beached around 13:00 hrs  at her last resting place to be scrapped Karachi photo’s : Arif Shaikh

++++++++++++

regards
Jan


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: wervis on September 01, 2014, 08:23:05 am
 :(


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Tomas Østberg- Jacobsen on September 01, 2014, 10:08:49 am
Forbanna DRITT.
Thanks for everything, good old Smit Rotterdam.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: kim holm on September 01, 2014, 12:43:54 pm
R:I:P:


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: davidships on September 14, 2014, 02:01:23 pm
GLOBAL DESTINY is "dragging it out" at Gadani.

Beached 1300hrs 12/9 on Plot 82, and winching the last 100 metres is expected to be completed tomorrow.  The pre-demolition paperwork can be finalised.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: DutchHannibal on September 30, 2014, 07:21:23 am
Is anyone following Hua An?....last one.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Robert Smith on October 02, 2014, 09:22:49 pm
Piet Sinke spotted the "Hua  AN"(the formere Smit Nrew York) in Singapore on Sept. 29th., 2014.
We'll keep track of this sole survivor of what was once a very proud fleet !


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: trader_sa on October 07, 2014, 11:51:49 pm
Hello Everybody,

I would like to introduce myself im Suleman Farooqui from Karachi, and im the breaker who has bought your prestigious Rotterdam, an excellent ship even from demolition point of view so i can only imagine how good it must have been on the sea. The ship faced engine failures in the end and both engines stopped working thus GMS had to sell the ship for scrap although they had future plans of towing with it. Its last tow was an oil tanker and thats when the engine failed, and TUG Thomas De Guwadief which was another purchase of mine was sent for its rescue before it was beached at my plot. I have taken some pictures of Rotterdam, if anyone would like me to upload them do let me know.

Regards,
   


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Tomas Østberg- Jacobsen on October 08, 2014, 05:06:48 am
Thanks a lot for this post, a most enlightning and kind one.
If you have pictures, i for once would be "happy" to see them.

Thanks once again.


Tomas Østberg, Norway


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Edvard Aaseboe on October 08, 2014, 10:16:15 am
trader_sa !

Me too. I want too see all of Your Pictures of beached ships.

Edvard


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Robert Smith on October 08, 2014, 06:38:40 pm
Hello Trader SA

As you can gather from this thread, which I started two years ago, there is a vivid interest in the fate of these tugs.So by all means, please do upload their pictures onto Shipspotting, preferably in the "scrapyard ships" category, for all to see.
Thank you very much !


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: malnik on October 08, 2014, 07:38:11 pm
Trader....nice to see you.

Please post your pictures, it would be good to see the process you go through to break these ships.

What happens with the engines do they just get sold off and melted down?


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: wervis on October 09, 2014, 07:01:39 am
Hello Trader Sa,

Thanks for your reply. Was the Singapore(global succes) also beached due engine failure?


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: DutchHannibal on October 10, 2014, 10:08:57 am
Dear Trader,

Thank you alot for commenting, I sailed them and would very much care for the pictures. It's nice to see how you understand the importance of these tugs in Dutch shipping history.

Please do post the pics of the demolition, perhaps even the process.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: DutchHannibal on November 06, 2014, 07:06:39 am
The silence is deafening guys..


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: davidships on November 06, 2014, 10:17:31 am
Can only add that HUA AN sailed Singapore Anchorages 29/10 and arrived in Kaohsiung Anchorage (Taiwan) today


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: DutchHannibal on November 07, 2014, 06:01:57 pm
Thanks Davidships, I saw that too. I was hoping some pictures from Trader would appear. I'm curious.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: wervis on December 24, 2014, 07:27:38 am
Is the Hua An (New York) still under sail? or also beached? No more seen on AIS


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: davidships on December 24, 2014, 10:45:04 am
Still at Kaohsiung, but sold 11/2014 to Asian Salvage & Towage Ltd, St Vincent (reg Kingstown) and renamed SALVAGE TITAN.  Their previous tug SALVAGE GIANT (IMO 7506417) was scrapped earlier this year after 21 years with the company.

AST is part of Asian Marine Co Ltd of Kaohsiung which is a serious company, so I would think that his looks good for her future.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Sven Grunzig on January 05, 2015, 07:36:26 pm
late reply with info about lng isabella and annabella,
1) insert into Chat reply #18 dated August 26, 2013:
isabella was handed over under own power (steam turbine with both Boilers online) on byers request off shore cadiz/spain, 16 man Crew take over the vessel, (only one engeneer with steam experience) , after safe passing gibralar street and in open Waters it was decided by now owners to safe fuels and shut down one boiler , due to lack of experience engine Crew was not able to compensate power arrangment to one Boiler only Status and additional to manage Alarm Systems as during a shut down process a lot of steam rising the engine room.
both leading into a total shut down/black out Situation.
vsl was towed to Gibraltar anchorage and engeneering specialist boarding (SIEMENS),
but vsl have to left Gibraltar anchorage due to port authorities order.
during the drifting time there was 2 towing tug around isabella - now marisa, how take the tow to Gibraltar ? latest from Gibraltar marisa was in tow by global destiny.
in this Situation and a possible reinstalation of own power it was desided to tow to cadiz off shore area for safe anchor. finally even technicians was not able to restart the Boilers and the marisa was towed to her final Destination by Global Destiny.
brgds, last man Standing on Isabella (left the vessel last with my wife)

 


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Sven Grunzig on January 05, 2015, 08:11:51 pm
2) insert into Chat reply #39 dated february 06, 2014:
lng annabella left cadiz on january 31st, 2014 under own power (steam turbine both Boilers online) and go to anchor 12nm off shore cadiz.
new Crew was only with Motor engeneer experience and with marisa in mind the new ownwer decide to shut down steam plant by old Crew.
Global Destiny I came alongside after vsl annabella drop anchor and postion was safe.
Tug Crew was checking if all ness. Equipment for a safe towing are on board (vsl was fully equiped) and take over the vsl from us.
weather wasnt fine that afternoon but all of the Crew managed to left the annabella via the Global Destiny I up to the habour tug alongside here even under NW 6 and 3 mtrs swell condition.
brgds, last man Standing Annabella


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: wervis on February 28, 2015, 06:26:47 pm
is the global succes1(ex singapore) still active?


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Robert Smith on March 01, 2015, 10:41:32 pm
She's active. Next survey due July 2016. She may survive till then ....


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Bernd Urbanik on March 02, 2015, 10:41:20 am
Equasis said:
Status of ship :   Broken Up   (since 29/05/2014)
Vesseltracker said:Status Of Ship Standardized   BROKEN UP
Status Date   (SINCE 27/05/2014)
Best Regards Bernd


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: wervis on March 02, 2015, 03:53:33 pm
Still alive and in service

http://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/details/ships/shipid:419419/mmsi:356816000/vessel:GLOBAL%20SUCCESS%20I




Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Bernd Urbanik on March 03, 2015, 10:19:30 am
Why do you thing about that?
Look at the Manager Website:www.diavlos-tugs.gr
There is no Global Success 1
May be somebody take the AIS Receiver on an other Ship.( A lot of AIS Recievers from Scrapped Ships change to a new Ship)
Global success 1 bring the MT Annabella and Global Success 1 +Tulip-1 beached MT Annabella 20.04.14 at Plot 34 (This infos was by Guijarat Ports )
Later the Global Success 1 was beached at Alang 29.05.14 Plot 47.I don´t heart that the Global Sucess 1 was rebeached.
Best Regards Bernd


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: wervis on March 03, 2015, 11:08:08 am
Because the beaching information was later whithdrawn.
She is still active at the moment.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Bernd Urbanik on March 03, 2015, 11:33:25 am
And for which Compamy or Owner  she drive?
Why Said Equasis that the Ship is Broken up?
Where are your information from?
Many Questions
Best regards Bernd


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Robert Smith on March 05, 2015, 10:45:35 pm
My earlier comments concerned "Salvage Titan"(IMO 7522136) ex "Hua An" ex "Smit New York".
She's the only remaining survivor.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: DutchHannibal on March 24, 2015, 07:41:11 pm
That's wehat I heard too. I'm not sure though. And the trader that was demolisching the Rotterdam is silent. Shame, I would have liked some pics.


Title: ex SMIT LONDON (IMO 7402453)
Post by: Jan Ove on April 10, 2016, 09:28:31 pm
hello,

Found one of the last photo of Global Change ex SMIT LONDON, prob stb here might be interested in: https://sunlightcopper.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/dsc08913.jpg

best regards
Jan


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Northkehdinger on April 11, 2016, 04:29:47 am
Thank you Jan  :)

Brgds


Title: ex SMIT NEW YORK (IMO 7522136)
Post by: Jan Ove on December 08, 2016, 04:04:33 pm
Gents,

On November 28, the oceangoing tug Salvage Titan went aground off the northern tip of the island of Luzon in the Philippines:

http://www.maritime-executive.com/article/photos-salvage-tug-goes-aground-in-phillipines

regards
Jan


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: davidships on December 09, 2016, 12:44:18 am
Claim by Maritime Executive that AIS signals show her under way again for Port Klang doesn't look at all likely. (Latest I can find is 24/11, before the grounding)


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Tony_Birdman on January 01, 2017, 10:33:28 pm
been searching through news articles on the net and i have found nothing new regarding Salvage Titan.
so does anyone know of whats happening.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: davidships on January 01, 2017, 11:07:24 pm
SALVAGE TITAN reported refloated 23/12/2016 in Barangay Marzan, Sanchez Mira, Cagayan, Luzon Island.
https://www.vesseltracker.com/en/Ships/Salvage-Titan-7522136.html

But nothing else found yet.


Title: SALVAGE TITAN
Post by: Jan Ove on January 02, 2017, 09:19:50 am
As per Tugs Towing Offshore Newsletter No.2016/100, dated 14 December 2016, page 8:

“Regarding  the  grounded  salvage  tug  Salvage Titan which  is aground  at Luzon in the Philippines at some sites it was mentioned that the tug was refloated and on the road again,  but  learned  yesterday  that  this  information  is  NOT  correct  ,  the  barge  with  the  cranes  is refloated but the tug Salvage Titan is still aground.”


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: davidships on January 02, 2017, 10:32:03 am
Yes Jan, no doubt that was true on 14/12.
The more recent report of refloating on 23/12 may well be correct, but not confirmed.


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: Tony_Birdman on January 04, 2017, 01:02:48 am
well i contacted Timsen via vesseltracker.com
the message i received back is as follows.

It was reported by Piet Sinke in his newsclippings which seems to be quite reliable news, especially regarding the latest report which has a larger probability than the initial salvage report which seemed to have based on old AIS data.
Best regards
Tim

so it seems she is back in deep water and not beached no longer.
Tony


Title: Re: End of an era of former "Dutch Glory"?
Post by: davidships on November 01, 2018, 10:42:31 pm
SALVAGE TITAN returned to service 8/2017 and took barge TENMA with container cranes from Oita to Port Klang in Aug/Sep 2017, returning her empty to Oita.
http://www.asian-marine.com.tw/index.php?option=news2&cid=4&nid=100 (http://www.asian-marine.com.tw/index.php?option=news2&cid=4&nid=100)
 
Then she has been static in Kaohsiung for a year, until today when she sailed out to the southern anchorage. 

One still to watch.